I appreciate your honesty in saying you don't really know, but maybe mRNA can possibly be used for the good.
I am a retired MD. I retired in the year 2000. During the COVID debacle I did a lot of scientific research to try to understand the issues of viruses, vaccines, masks, etc.
What I found out with a fellow retired MD was quite an awak…
I appreciate your honesty in saying you don't really know, but maybe mRNA can possibly be used for the good.
I am a retired MD. I retired in the year 2000. During the COVID debacle I did a lot of scientific research to try to understand the issues of viruses, vaccines, masks, etc.
What I found out with a fellow retired MD was quite an awakening.
About mRNA: this drug is not a vaccine but gene therapy. What's important for everyone to understand is that originally gene therapy was considered a great idea for helping people with specific genetic mutations, in the hope it could correct those mutations.
What happened when they tried gene therapy was that it caused so many severe adverse reactions and deaths that it was worse than the actual illness it meant to correct. That meant gene therapy was ended.
Until the "Pandemic." The pharmaceutical manufacturers dusted off their gene therapy which is essentially a poison wrapped in a lipid nanoparticle so it can be transported to every part of the body. The reason they called it a 'vaccine' is that they would have zero liability if it were a vaccine.
Everyone in the field of gene therapy knew these were not vaccines but gene therapy. It was only the public that had no idea. We were all told by our doctors and the media that these were safe and effective and we assumed they had been safety tested.
They had not been adequately safety tested at all. They were essentially devised as poison and it was not just Americans who were encouraged to take it, but people all around the globe.
The results of this global experiment to which nobody had given their consent (in violation of the Nuremberg code) was 17 million people died. People became ill with pulmonary embolism, other thromboembolic diseases, stroke, myocarditis, heart attacks, sterility, and massive numbers of miscarriages and fetal deaths.
So mRNA gene therapy can never be a cure for anything. It is a poison and the purpose for which it was used was for a global depopulation plan.
The US Congress passed legislation that made it possible for the US bioweapons programs to deploy these poisons, call them vaccines, and when a national medical emergency was called, to put the entire program under the auspices of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Thus a military program was initiated with stealth martial law in effect. Think about this: does it make sense for the military to run a public health emergency? It was not a public health emergency! It was a fake pandemic.
I learned many other things that I never knew before and I can honestly say all doctors are indoctrinated to believe that the "germ theory" is a FACT! YES, NOT A THEORY BUT A FACT, even though the scientific evidence is absent! In fact the bacteria fungi, etc that live on our bodies and inside our bodies are there to help us, not to hurt us. Also I learned that viruses have never been proven to exist by the scientific method. Virologists have used clever techniques to disguise this fact, but they have not isolated any viruses, all they have done is use the products of cell culture breakdown and analyze the nucleotide fragments and call those fragments viruses! Those amino acids came from the cells that broke down. There is no proof that a virus is in there.
I realize that there is a lot I am presenting at this time, but I just want to reassure you that you do not need to worry that microorganisms are just waiting to attack you. In fact bacteria and fungi are found in dead and dying tissue not because they caused the death of the tissue, but because their role is to clear away dead and dying tissue. Without the bacteria in our gut we would never be able to metabolize our food!
Bottom line, do your own research, doctors are well meaning but they don't realize they are indoctrinated. I didn't realize it until after I retired and had time to really investigate the science.
You can learn about all these things from various substack authors. You can learn about the legislation already enacted that made it possible for our bioterrorism and biosecurity state to use these poisons on us from: bailiwicknews@substack.com. You can learn about all about germ theory from Dr. Sam Bailey at her substack. And from Mike Stone at his Viroliegy substack.
Oh and there is no such thing as "settled science." That is the most ignorant idea I have ever heard. The scientific method is used to search for the truth and to better understand our world around us. Nothing is ever settled permanently because there is always more to learn. "Settled science" is the opposite of science.
Eve, just curious about your perspective on something as a retired MD. I was skeptical of the mRNA shot from the start, not because I knew anything about mRNA, but simply because it seemed unfathomable that Pharma would/could label an experimental shot “safe”, and they touted that endlessly (which was also suspicious). There is no possible way that was knowable, especially in the long term. I realize MD’s are indoctrinated; however, it defies logic and common sense, particularly, I would think, for anyone who has been through medical school. Would this not give a doctor pause also?
Obviously it did some, but the majority just went along. Any insight into why? Was it because they saw how their colleagues who raised concerns were treated , or are they somehow so brainwashed that they just don’t even question anything coming out of Pharma, or something else?
While I have been disillusioned with allopathic medicine for some time, this was the final nail in the coffin for me in regard to placing any trust in the medical profession at all, for almost anything other than broken bones or possibly treating traumatic injury. I’m not saying there are not still good doctors out there, but I think many do more harm than good.
Not That "Karen" I admire your skepticism! I had my concerns about the shots, but my concerns were vague and not well formed. Because my husband had been diagnosed with glioblastoma, and would be on chemotherapy, I was mostly concerned with the possibility of his getting sick because of me. I turned to a doctor of mine who was meticulous, head of medicine at our hospital. He told me the risks of getting COVID were much greater than the risks of the injections.
I have learned so much since that fateful "advice." A doctor I once admired and respected appeared to me to be either completely ignorant, completely indoctrinated, or [incomprehensible to me], wishing harm on his patients.
Ever since then I have tried to practice skepticism every chance I get, but this is a personal quality that I think is connected with one's personality. I think medical students are not chosen for their skepticism, BUT THEY SHOULD BE! Any scientific endeavor requires skepticism. Instead most people who get into medical school are highly compliant individuals willing to devote all the hours of their days to studying and preparing for exams. This is what makes them easy marks for indoctrination.
In medical school we were taught that the germ theory was fact. We were actually not taught it is a theory! We were taught that bacteria, fungi, and viruses were potentially ready at all times to attack us, including our own microbiome. (Although the latter term was not common when I was in med school: 1975-78). We were taught viruses exist. We were taught that vaccines had saved millions of lives, and that they were effective and safe. We were taught theories about disease (pathology) and treatment (often medications) and had a course devoted to the latter: pharmacology. Soon we were thinking of diseases and medications for each disease as "illness+cure". or "illness+control".
We were not taught that medications were primarily "symptom management" which is very different from cure or control of a disease.
Doctors still practicing are still indoctrinated except for a very few, but it is very difficult to practice in patient care and not use antibiotics, for example, or chemotherapy, for cancer patients. I think doctors who resist the indoctrination are likely to leave medical practice starting with the COVID debacle, because that was when a clear line was drawn in the sand: either you practice medicine the way the government demands you practice or you lose your admitting privileges.
Never in my life did I think it wold come to this. I never imagined a time would come when doctors were told how to treat their own patients by a one-size-fits-all method decided by government bureaucrats.
The fact that doctors allowed themselves to be turned into murderers is something so dystopian I have difficulty understanding it. Because if doctors had organized and stood together, protesting having treatment decisions taken out of their hands, they would have had a lot of power. There would be no way to replace all of them. But the threat of replacing them drove most of them to submit. No practice, no income, no income, no survival for you and your family.
I realize this is difficult to believe; how could doctors be so naive or so trusting? Being told your income depended upon accepting being told what to do was the last straw. I think what has happened in medicine happened very slowly for a long time, then very quickly at the end (COVID period).
Our autonomy has been taken from us starting with insurance coverage for in-patient care. Once hospital care got too expensive for any individual to pay for out of pocket, and insurance became necessary to prevent catastrophic debt/bankruptcy for patients, doctors had to justify many of their treatment decisions to faceless bureaucrats in insurance companies. We had to justify the use of certain medications, we had to justify patient length of stay in the hospital, EVEN IF THE PATIENT WAS SUICIDAL, we could get insurance companies refusing to pay! We had to discharge some patients who were suicidal, something I was taught to NEVER EVER DO, and try to arrange outpatient care that we hoped would provide enough support for the patient.
Once doctors complied with all of these limitations on our autonomy, we were forced to please hundreds of different insurance companies, as well as the administrators, such as our department heads who were focused on length of stay, and hospital administrators who were leaning on our department heads, etc.
Over time I think doctors just got used to "taking orders." I don't know if all doctors did or just the majority, but those who needed to practice in hospital settings had to give up some of their autonomy.
I agree with you, doctors have had to become self-protective (in order to stay in practice) and willing to comply even if it meant suboptimal quality of care, and the quality of care began to deteriorate no matter how good a doctor you meant to be. Hospitals would insist that cutting down the length of stay was completely consistent with "quality of care." That was pretty dystopian in and of itself right there. But at the time I heard that, all that happened was I decided to just treat outpatients and get out of the vise of having to choose between too many masters: department heads, insurance companies, the patients, etc. But I was a psychiatrist so this was possible, doctors in other specialties didn't even have that option. So they had to get increasingly compliant.
From the beginning of the takeover of medicine by the Rockefeller group of foundations in the early part of the 20th century all it took was 100 years to bring good quality of care to its knees. Of course the Rockefeller globalists would deny all this, their stated goal was to turn doctors into "professionals" (pill pushers) as opposed to practitioners of natural or herbal medicine, which they defined as "quack" medicine. Nobody who went to the trouble of going to medical school wanted to think of themselves as a quack.
I didn't realize I was indoctrinated. I believed that surely we would not be taught anything that hadn't been proven by the scientific method! I sincerely believed that everything we were taught was already long ago proven by science. It would never have occurred to me to question any of it. Very sad to me in retrospect that I wasn't more skeptical.
I hope this helps you understand the way medical students are trapped in a system that is meant to turn out compliant pill pushers, people who believe what they are doing is the best possible care in a highly technical field.
I lost respect for the entire field of medicine, although that might be harsh. I have a doctor, but I see her limitations and try to make use of her suggestions. If any of her suggestions do not fit with my understanding based upon what I have learned since COVID, I just will not comply. That situation has not arisen. It has made me think through carefully what I will discuss with my doctors and what I think is best not discussed, as it would potentially lead to an unresolvable conflict at a moment of illness for me, i.e a moment of vulnerability.
By the way my husband has never had a recurrence of his brain tumor.
We both took 2 of the "vaccines." We both got facial herpes after the first "vaccine," (J&J) My husband had a pulmonary embolism within 6 months of his second
"vaccine," which he also survived.
I do not know if it will be possible to change "disease care" into "health care" in the US as there are such powerful forces arrayed against it. Ultimately I hope we as Americans can learn from each other and find sources of knowledge to help us live healthy lives. After all, human beings have been on this earth for 6 million years before there were "doctors in white lab coats" ! I am hopeful that non-allopathic methods of treatment will be explored and turned to, but this may take several generations to accomplish.
Eve, thank you for your insightful and thoughtful reply. I guess I hadn’t really thought of skepticism as a personality trait. Apparently, it must be relatively uncommon given that so many, including my husband and daughter, lined up to willingly roll up their sleeves for a shot that had zero long-term safety data. I guess to be fair though, the mandates likely played a large role in that as well. I’m lucky enough to live in a conservative state where vaccination status wasn’t an issue, so it was much easier for me than it was for many others.
I have to say, had I been in your shoes with a husband who was fighting cancer, I would likely have made the same choice as you. They were very clever with their emotional blackmail. I believe my adult daughter complied because she was around her husband’s 90+ year old grandparents.
It will be interesting to see if RFKJ is confirmed whether he actually begins to make a difference, or if it will be more of the same. Given some of the other clean up that this Administration is beginning to tackle, there may be some hope of at least getting some of Pharma’s tentacles out of the regulatory agencies.
So sorry to hear of your husband’s health struggles. There are several Substack authors I have found to be good sources of “alternative” medicines. Interestingly enough, both have MD’s, one is a currently practicing MD, A Midwestern Doctor and the other a retired MD, Dr Robert Yoho. Another Substack, 2nd Smartest Guy in the World, writes about the use of Ivermectin and Fenbendazole to cure cancer. You may already be familiar with these individuals, but I thought I would mention them just in case.
Good luck to you and your husband, may you both enjoy good health going forward.
Fascinating and horrifying. I do have to ask, concerning the information about viruses and organisms making us sick - if that's not the cause, then what is it when we get what we call a cold or the flu? And in a family or group, how does it spread if it is not a virus?
I appreciate your honesty in saying you don't really know, but maybe mRNA can possibly be used for the good.
I am a retired MD. I retired in the year 2000. During the COVID debacle I did a lot of scientific research to try to understand the issues of viruses, vaccines, masks, etc.
What I found out with a fellow retired MD was quite an awakening.
About mRNA: this drug is not a vaccine but gene therapy. What's important for everyone to understand is that originally gene therapy was considered a great idea for helping people with specific genetic mutations, in the hope it could correct those mutations.
What happened when they tried gene therapy was that it caused so many severe adverse reactions and deaths that it was worse than the actual illness it meant to correct. That meant gene therapy was ended.
Until the "Pandemic." The pharmaceutical manufacturers dusted off their gene therapy which is essentially a poison wrapped in a lipid nanoparticle so it can be transported to every part of the body. The reason they called it a 'vaccine' is that they would have zero liability if it were a vaccine.
Everyone in the field of gene therapy knew these were not vaccines but gene therapy. It was only the public that had no idea. We were all told by our doctors and the media that these were safe and effective and we assumed they had been safety tested.
They had not been adequately safety tested at all. They were essentially devised as poison and it was not just Americans who were encouraged to take it, but people all around the globe.
The results of this global experiment to which nobody had given their consent (in violation of the Nuremberg code) was 17 million people died. People became ill with pulmonary embolism, other thromboembolic diseases, stroke, myocarditis, heart attacks, sterility, and massive numbers of miscarriages and fetal deaths.
So mRNA gene therapy can never be a cure for anything. It is a poison and the purpose for which it was used was for a global depopulation plan.
The US Congress passed legislation that made it possible for the US bioweapons programs to deploy these poisons, call them vaccines, and when a national medical emergency was called, to put the entire program under the auspices of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Thus a military program was initiated with stealth martial law in effect. Think about this: does it make sense for the military to run a public health emergency? It was not a public health emergency! It was a fake pandemic.
I learned many other things that I never knew before and I can honestly say all doctors are indoctrinated to believe that the "germ theory" is a FACT! YES, NOT A THEORY BUT A FACT, even though the scientific evidence is absent! In fact the bacteria fungi, etc that live on our bodies and inside our bodies are there to help us, not to hurt us. Also I learned that viruses have never been proven to exist by the scientific method. Virologists have used clever techniques to disguise this fact, but they have not isolated any viruses, all they have done is use the products of cell culture breakdown and analyze the nucleotide fragments and call those fragments viruses! Those amino acids came from the cells that broke down. There is no proof that a virus is in there.
I realize that there is a lot I am presenting at this time, but I just want to reassure you that you do not need to worry that microorganisms are just waiting to attack you. In fact bacteria and fungi are found in dead and dying tissue not because they caused the death of the tissue, but because their role is to clear away dead and dying tissue. Without the bacteria in our gut we would never be able to metabolize our food!
Bottom line, do your own research, doctors are well meaning but they don't realize they are indoctrinated. I didn't realize it until after I retired and had time to really investigate the science.
You can learn about all these things from various substack authors. You can learn about the legislation already enacted that made it possible for our bioterrorism and biosecurity state to use these poisons on us from: bailiwicknews@substack.com. You can learn about all about germ theory from Dr. Sam Bailey at her substack. And from Mike Stone at his Viroliegy substack.
Oh and there is no such thing as "settled science." That is the most ignorant idea I have ever heard. The scientific method is used to search for the truth and to better understand our world around us. Nothing is ever settled permanently because there is always more to learn. "Settled science" is the opposite of science.
Eve, just curious about your perspective on something as a retired MD. I was skeptical of the mRNA shot from the start, not because I knew anything about mRNA, but simply because it seemed unfathomable that Pharma would/could label an experimental shot “safe”, and they touted that endlessly (which was also suspicious). There is no possible way that was knowable, especially in the long term. I realize MD’s are indoctrinated; however, it defies logic and common sense, particularly, I would think, for anyone who has been through medical school. Would this not give a doctor pause also?
Obviously it did some, but the majority just went along. Any insight into why? Was it because they saw how their colleagues who raised concerns were treated , or are they somehow so brainwashed that they just don’t even question anything coming out of Pharma, or something else?
While I have been disillusioned with allopathic medicine for some time, this was the final nail in the coffin for me in regard to placing any trust in the medical profession at all, for almost anything other than broken bones or possibly treating traumatic injury. I’m not saying there are not still good doctors out there, but I think many do more harm than good.
Not That "Karen" I admire your skepticism! I had my concerns about the shots, but my concerns were vague and not well formed. Because my husband had been diagnosed with glioblastoma, and would be on chemotherapy, I was mostly concerned with the possibility of his getting sick because of me. I turned to a doctor of mine who was meticulous, head of medicine at our hospital. He told me the risks of getting COVID were much greater than the risks of the injections.
I have learned so much since that fateful "advice." A doctor I once admired and respected appeared to me to be either completely ignorant, completely indoctrinated, or [incomprehensible to me], wishing harm on his patients.
Ever since then I have tried to practice skepticism every chance I get, but this is a personal quality that I think is connected with one's personality. I think medical students are not chosen for their skepticism, BUT THEY SHOULD BE! Any scientific endeavor requires skepticism. Instead most people who get into medical school are highly compliant individuals willing to devote all the hours of their days to studying and preparing for exams. This is what makes them easy marks for indoctrination.
In medical school we were taught that the germ theory was fact. We were actually not taught it is a theory! We were taught that bacteria, fungi, and viruses were potentially ready at all times to attack us, including our own microbiome. (Although the latter term was not common when I was in med school: 1975-78). We were taught viruses exist. We were taught that vaccines had saved millions of lives, and that they were effective and safe. We were taught theories about disease (pathology) and treatment (often medications) and had a course devoted to the latter: pharmacology. Soon we were thinking of diseases and medications for each disease as "illness+cure". or "illness+control".
We were not taught that medications were primarily "symptom management" which is very different from cure or control of a disease.
Doctors still practicing are still indoctrinated except for a very few, but it is very difficult to practice in patient care and not use antibiotics, for example, or chemotherapy, for cancer patients. I think doctors who resist the indoctrination are likely to leave medical practice starting with the COVID debacle, because that was when a clear line was drawn in the sand: either you practice medicine the way the government demands you practice or you lose your admitting privileges.
Never in my life did I think it wold come to this. I never imagined a time would come when doctors were told how to treat their own patients by a one-size-fits-all method decided by government bureaucrats.
The fact that doctors allowed themselves to be turned into murderers is something so dystopian I have difficulty understanding it. Because if doctors had organized and stood together, protesting having treatment decisions taken out of their hands, they would have had a lot of power. There would be no way to replace all of them. But the threat of replacing them drove most of them to submit. No practice, no income, no income, no survival for you and your family.
I realize this is difficult to believe; how could doctors be so naive or so trusting? Being told your income depended upon accepting being told what to do was the last straw. I think what has happened in medicine happened very slowly for a long time, then very quickly at the end (COVID period).
Our autonomy has been taken from us starting with insurance coverage for in-patient care. Once hospital care got too expensive for any individual to pay for out of pocket, and insurance became necessary to prevent catastrophic debt/bankruptcy for patients, doctors had to justify many of their treatment decisions to faceless bureaucrats in insurance companies. We had to justify the use of certain medications, we had to justify patient length of stay in the hospital, EVEN IF THE PATIENT WAS SUICIDAL, we could get insurance companies refusing to pay! We had to discharge some patients who were suicidal, something I was taught to NEVER EVER DO, and try to arrange outpatient care that we hoped would provide enough support for the patient.
Once doctors complied with all of these limitations on our autonomy, we were forced to please hundreds of different insurance companies, as well as the administrators, such as our department heads who were focused on length of stay, and hospital administrators who were leaning on our department heads, etc.
Over time I think doctors just got used to "taking orders." I don't know if all doctors did or just the majority, but those who needed to practice in hospital settings had to give up some of their autonomy.
I agree with you, doctors have had to become self-protective (in order to stay in practice) and willing to comply even if it meant suboptimal quality of care, and the quality of care began to deteriorate no matter how good a doctor you meant to be. Hospitals would insist that cutting down the length of stay was completely consistent with "quality of care." That was pretty dystopian in and of itself right there. But at the time I heard that, all that happened was I decided to just treat outpatients and get out of the vise of having to choose between too many masters: department heads, insurance companies, the patients, etc. But I was a psychiatrist so this was possible, doctors in other specialties didn't even have that option. So they had to get increasingly compliant.
From the beginning of the takeover of medicine by the Rockefeller group of foundations in the early part of the 20th century all it took was 100 years to bring good quality of care to its knees. Of course the Rockefeller globalists would deny all this, their stated goal was to turn doctors into "professionals" (pill pushers) as opposed to practitioners of natural or herbal medicine, which they defined as "quack" medicine. Nobody who went to the trouble of going to medical school wanted to think of themselves as a quack.
I didn't realize I was indoctrinated. I believed that surely we would not be taught anything that hadn't been proven by the scientific method! I sincerely believed that everything we were taught was already long ago proven by science. It would never have occurred to me to question any of it. Very sad to me in retrospect that I wasn't more skeptical.
I hope this helps you understand the way medical students are trapped in a system that is meant to turn out compliant pill pushers, people who believe what they are doing is the best possible care in a highly technical field.
I lost respect for the entire field of medicine, although that might be harsh. I have a doctor, but I see her limitations and try to make use of her suggestions. If any of her suggestions do not fit with my understanding based upon what I have learned since COVID, I just will not comply. That situation has not arisen. It has made me think through carefully what I will discuss with my doctors and what I think is best not discussed, as it would potentially lead to an unresolvable conflict at a moment of illness for me, i.e a moment of vulnerability.
By the way my husband has never had a recurrence of his brain tumor.
We both took 2 of the "vaccines." We both got facial herpes after the first "vaccine," (J&J) My husband had a pulmonary embolism within 6 months of his second
"vaccine," which he also survived.
I do not know if it will be possible to change "disease care" into "health care" in the US as there are such powerful forces arrayed against it. Ultimately I hope we as Americans can learn from each other and find sources of knowledge to help us live healthy lives. After all, human beings have been on this earth for 6 million years before there were "doctors in white lab coats" ! I am hopeful that non-allopathic methods of treatment will be explored and turned to, but this may take several generations to accomplish.
Eve, thank you for your insightful and thoughtful reply. I guess I hadn’t really thought of skepticism as a personality trait. Apparently, it must be relatively uncommon given that so many, including my husband and daughter, lined up to willingly roll up their sleeves for a shot that had zero long-term safety data. I guess to be fair though, the mandates likely played a large role in that as well. I’m lucky enough to live in a conservative state where vaccination status wasn’t an issue, so it was much easier for me than it was for many others.
I have to say, had I been in your shoes with a husband who was fighting cancer, I would likely have made the same choice as you. They were very clever with their emotional blackmail. I believe my adult daughter complied because she was around her husband’s 90+ year old grandparents.
It will be interesting to see if RFKJ is confirmed whether he actually begins to make a difference, or if it will be more of the same. Given some of the other clean up that this Administration is beginning to tackle, there may be some hope of at least getting some of Pharma’s tentacles out of the regulatory agencies.
So sorry to hear of your husband’s health struggles. There are several Substack authors I have found to be good sources of “alternative” medicines. Interestingly enough, both have MD’s, one is a currently practicing MD, A Midwestern Doctor and the other a retired MD, Dr Robert Yoho. Another Substack, 2nd Smartest Guy in the World, writes about the use of Ivermectin and Fenbendazole to cure cancer. You may already be familiar with these individuals, but I thought I would mention them just in case.
Good luck to you and your husband, may you both enjoy good health going forward.
Just want to add a !! to your post. You have put together a lot of information I have read elsewhere. Thanks for your contribution here.
Fascinating and horrifying. I do have to ask, concerning the information about viruses and organisms making us sick - if that's not the cause, then what is it when we get what we call a cold or the flu? And in a family or group, how does it spread if it is not a virus?
Exactly! 👏👏